(RECORDED MARCH 3 & 4 2019) So now this 'documentary' entitled 'Leaving Neverland' is airing, as we have this conversation. Feelings are heightened. Opinions are divided. Those who were already convinced of Michael's guilt are more than convinced after watching it; many in the fan community have refused to watch it. We at 'Music And We' do what we can in order to present a more nuanced position on this particular situation. While we have not seen the film at this point, our position is to stick to the facts as much as we can. Given the manipulative angles the producers (and director) of this film are taking, it is crucial we take this angle. As this moment is fresh for us (both of these recordings were in the midst of everything happening) we could not grasp everything. One thing is clear- Being reactionary is not going to convince anyone to see a side other than the one they are firmly placed in.
Both Jesse/Jester and jamilah have been aware throughout this whole series of events that something is bothering us, and we do our best to figure it out. The statements from Safechuck and Robson have us feeling some kind of way:
"I got married and had a son. I continued to live in denial and secrecy. After my son was born in late 2010, my fear of exposure became worse as i realized that now other people were part of my life and I was dragging them into it. I began to see how innocent children really are and to worry that i would have pedophilic urges." -Safechuck
He mentions his son's 2010 birth as a turning point in his life (in terms of "fear of exposure"), yet he mentions that he had no awareness that he was abused until Robson's announcement in 2013. How would his child's birth in 2010 also be a point of awareness of being a survivor of abuse? His mother (in the film) also claims that she danced in her bed upon the news of Michael's passing (in 2009) because "he could no longer hurt a child." This would also chronologically be a mismatch from both of Safechuck's 'official' narratives.
"In March 2012, I had my second and final nervous breakdown which again included feelings of extreme stress, anxiety, fear and depression. I would look at my son and imagine him experiencing the sexual acts I did with Doe 1- which I did not yet equate with being sexually abused. And, for the first time in my life, I wondered if I needed to talk to someone about what Doe 1 and I 'did together'. I knew that I truly had no idea how I felt about it." -Robson
Robson's previous explanations for his nervous breakdowns were because of the stress of directing major productions; upon dropping out his writings lamented that he let Michael down.
There's a lot of plot holes in the story. It is always good to ask questions, and to do homework on ALL sides, regardless of what side you are on. Do not blindly follow a person, whether it's Michael Jackson, or the two subjects of a highly stylized film.
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